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Feb 7 2019

EsIsl added a comment to T4893: Adding multiple recipients for an e-mail/particpipants.

Agree with @M.Gruber.

Feb 7 2019, 5:03 PM · UX Seminar WS17
EsIsl added a comment to T4899: Inconsistency when separating e-mails.

I agree that it would interfere with the option to see availability. It wouldn´t make sense to be able to have multiple addresses in a row, after entering them.

Feb 7 2019, 5:00 PM · UX Seminar WS17
EsIsl added a comment to T4995: Adding an event in the monthly view generates an all-day event.

I would suggest there to be no default at all. Maybe something like "--" to indicate that the time frame has to be selected.

Feb 7 2019, 4:56 PM · UX Seminar WS17
EsIsl added a comment to T4983: When selecting a time you can't see them all.

On Windows 10, Chrome Version 71.0.3578.98 , it automatically scrolls down the whole window, opposed to only the time-frame-window itself.

Feb 7 2019, 4:55 PM · UX Seminar WS17
EsIsl added a comment to T4980: When typing the times for an event the interval of the suggestions is not consistent.

Do you mean that the first two hours that are suggested are in quarter hours and the following in full hours? That wouldn`t bother me as much as the suggestions themselves, since as you said, they don´t make sense at all.

Feb 7 2019, 4:52 PM · UX Seminar WS17
EsIsl added a comment to T4962: When trying to hide a calender the button stays black - the same with the "all-day" button.

Mine turns black as well. Windows 10, Chrome Version 71.0.3578.98

Feb 7 2019, 4:49 PM · UX Seminar WS17
machniak added a comment to T4959: when typing in an title there are unlogical suggestions appearing.

This is controlled by the browser, I don't know what we can do about this other than disabling autocompletion (that should be possible with html attribute).

Feb 7 2019, 4:11 PM · UX Seminar WS17
machniak added a comment to T4845: If changing repeating event, option which to change not easy to see.

Yes.

Feb 7 2019, 4:09 PM · UX Seminar WS17
isabel.pacheco closed T4971: When clicking on time to create event the default time often is wrong as Invalid.
Feb 7 2019, 3:55 PM · UX Seminar WS17
isabel.pacheco added a comment to T4971: When clicking on time to create event the default time often is wrong.

Yes, the window that turns blue is the 7:30 pm but the mouse was on the slot below..
Now I cannot reproduce it either..

Feb 7 2019, 3:55 PM · UX Seminar WS17
isabel.pacheco added a comment to T4980: When typing the times for an event the interval of the suggestions is not consistent.
Feb 7 2019, 3:53 PM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender assigned T4959: when typing in an title there are unlogical suggestions appearing to machniak.
Feb 7 2019, 3:52 PM · UX Seminar WS17
isabel.pacheco moved T4959: when typing in an title there are unlogical suggestions appearing from In Progress to Done on the UX Seminar WS17 board.
Feb 7 2019, 3:51 PM · UX Seminar WS17
isabel.pacheco closed T4869: Search fields not labelled clearly as Resolved.
Feb 7 2019, 3:51 PM · UX Seminar WS17
isabel.pacheco added a comment to T4869: Search fields not labelled clearly.

This was before the change.

Feb 7 2019, 3:50 PM · UX Seminar WS17
isabel.pacheco added a comment to T4983: When selecting a time you can't see them all.

You can scroll, but the time slots are shown further down "behind" the safe bar. When you scroll down the whole window it works. But instead you shouldn't have to scroll down the whole window, instead the "last time shown" should be visible above the safe bar. So you can scroll down the time bar and see the last time without scrolling the whole window.

Feb 7 2019, 3:50 PM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender added a comment to T4845: If changing repeating event, option which to change not easy to see.

Updated version

Feb 7 2019, 3:48 PM · UX Seminar WS17
isabel.pacheco added a comment to T4995: Adding an event in the monthly view generates an all-day event.

Just an example. It doesn't really matter what time, but it shouldn't be an all-day event.

Feb 7 2019, 3:47 PM · UX Seminar WS17
isabel.pacheco added a comment to T5019: After saving an event the notion of "save" didn´t disappear.

It only happens sometimes..

Feb 7 2019, 3:45 PM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender added a comment to T4845: If changing repeating event, option which to change not easy to see.

@machniak is that the direction you want to move into ?

Feb 7 2019, 3:33 PM · UX Seminar WS17
machniak added a comment to T4587: always invite/notify participants of events.

It's not about compatibility. At least nothing comes to my mind regarding this. However, I'm not so sure about "There is no reason to have a meeting without the person with that you're having the meeting knowing there is a meeting".

Feb 7 2019, 3:03 PM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender added a comment to T4767: No undo button after deleting Calender.

The issue is that test subjects were confused on what to to type in this field.
So we need some way to show them what kind of data belongs in that field.
A (greyed out) placeholder text is on UI pattern that solves this quite well.

Feb 7 2019, 2:58 PM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender claimed T4845: If changing repeating event, option which to change not easy to see.

Alright. I take this one.

Feb 7 2019, 2:51 PM · UX Seminar WS17
machniak added a comment to T4845: If changing repeating event, option which to change not easy to see.

Yeah, some clients even display the question dialog separately before you start editing. Another thing to do is to think about decluttering the dialog/form, so it does not display all these inputs initially and the question box is visible. Some UX work will be needed.

Feb 7 2019, 2:49 PM · UX Seminar WS17
machniak added a comment to T4767: No undo button after deleting Calender.

I think this is non-issue. You don't consider "alice@example.com" also confusing?

Feb 7 2019, 2:45 PM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender added a comment to T5007: Function of sharing a calendar is hard to find.

Would that make sense to rename it to "Edit/Share"? Note that not every folder can be shared.

Feb 7 2019, 2:45 PM · UX Seminar WS17
machniak added a comment to T5007: Function of sharing a calendar is hard to find.

Are we talking about functionality from Sharing tab in calendar edit dialog? There's "Edit" (it should be "Edit calendar" really) entry in 3-dots-options menu. I'm not sure we need two distinct entries in the menu for sharing and editing. Would that make sense to rename it to "Edit/Share"? Note that not every folder can be shared.

Feb 7 2019, 2:43 PM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender assigned T4845: If changing repeating event, option which to change not easy to see to machniak.
Feb 7 2019, 2:43 PM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender added a comment to T4767: No undo button after deleting Calender.

You mean display autocompletion list when you focus the input without entering anything (yet)?

Or when you type the first letter. Its probably a bad idea.

Feb 7 2019, 2:39 PM · UX Seminar WS17
machniak added a comment to T4767: No undo button after deleting Calender.

You mean display autocompletion list when you focus the input without entering anything (yet)? Sounds strange. Also, note that autocompletion does not display names and email separately (until, of course there a person without a name specified).

Feb 7 2019, 2:35 PM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender assigned T5007: Function of sharing a calendar is hard to find to machniak.
Feb 7 2019, 2:35 PM · UX Seminar WS17
ben99 added a comment to T4692: annoying auto-scroll.

exactly

Feb 7 2019, 2:33 PM · UX Seminar WS17
machniak added a comment to T4692: annoying auto-scroll.

Thanks. So, it auto-scrolls when you move mouse cursor over the list without clicking anything, right?

Feb 7 2019, 2:32 PM · UX Seminar WS17
ben99 added a comment to T4692: annoying auto-scroll.

in hallway testing some found this to be really annoying. Say, you want to select 10:00 here (see video) and it auto scrolls to 0:00 just because of curser placement.

Feb 7 2019, 2:32 PM · UX Seminar WS17
machniak added a comment to T5166: Search option in agenda in limited to future 60 days by default.

I think current behaviour is there to get best performance for most common case. It could be "faked" this way, I guess, but not that easy.

Feb 7 2019, 2:30 PM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender added a comment to T4767: No undo button after deleting Calender.

Could we start with two "random" autocomplete suggestions - one beeing a name, the other an email address?

Feb 7 2019, 2:29 PM · UX Seminar WS17
ben99 added a comment to T4692: annoying auto-scroll.

Feb 7 2019, 2:29 PM · UX Seminar WS17
machniak added a comment to T4929: unclear what to type in under "add participants".

It indeed accepts email only, but there's autocompletion implemented and it works with names too. So, I guess the placeholder should be "Participant name or email" (the same for Resources form, I guess). Still, I'm not sure I like it.

Feb 7 2019, 2:25 PM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender assigned T5166: Search option in agenda in limited to future 60 days by default to machniak.
Feb 7 2019, 2:25 PM · UX Seminar WS17
machniak added a comment to T5085: Calender view goes back to default after looking at mails.

Maybe. That might not be trivial as the view switcher is controlled by fullCalendar library and it does not always produce a http request.

Feb 7 2019, 2:20 PM · UX Seminar WS17
machniak closed T4770: can't search for events of a category as Resolved.

Fixed in 8400bbe36ff [roundcubemail-plugins-kolab master].

Feb 7 2019, 2:17 PM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender moved T4692: annoying auto-scroll from 1 to In Progress on the UX Seminar WS17 board.

@ben99 can you clarify this and create a video for us?

Feb 7 2019, 2:05 PM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender added a comment to T4767: No undo button after deleting Calender.

What about a case when a user deletes the calendar and immediately leaves webmail session?

In that case the user would expect the deletion to still go through.

Feb 7 2019, 2:04 PM · UX Seminar WS17
machniak added a comment to T4692: annoying auto-scroll.

No issue in Chrome either. I don't have a Mac. I also don't full understand this: "place cursor at the top of the dropdown menu (at around 16:00), expected result: selected time stays the same". When you click a time on selection list the list should hide and the selected time should be inserted into the input. So I don't know what do you mean.

Feb 7 2019, 2:02 PM · UX Seminar WS17
machniak updated subscribers of T4767: No undo button after deleting Calender.

Maybe @vanmeeuwen would have some ideas.

Feb 7 2019, 1:28 PM · UX Seminar WS17
machniak added a comment to T4767: No undo button after deleting Calender.

Well, we could. We'd need to store the deletion request for later in some persistent storage and take it from there after timeout. What about a case when a user deletes the calendar and immediately leaves webmail session? Should he then expect the calendar to be deleted on his iPhone? In other words, we could do this on client side only, no IMAP technology (I know of) to do this server-side.

Feb 7 2019, 1:28 PM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender added a comment to T4767: No undo button after deleting Calender.

Couldn`t we just delay the deletion for 10 sec?

Feb 7 2019, 1:24 PM · UX Seminar WS17
machniak added a comment to T4767: No undo button after deleting Calender.

Undeleting a folder requires administrator rights in IMAP. So, such a feature would have security implications and needs more considerations.

Feb 7 2019, 11:38 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender merged task T4953: Go back button takes you all the way back without warning into T5085: Calender view goes back to default after looking at mails.
Feb 7 2019, 11:34 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender merged T4953: Go back button takes you all the way back without warning into T5085: Calender view goes back to default after looking at mails.
Feb 7 2019, 11:34 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender added a comment to T4587: always invite/notify participants of events.

Do we get into compatibility issues when we don't show this in the UI and have notify participants on by default in the background?

Feb 7 2019, 11:31 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender moved T4647: Layout Problems from 1 to In Progress on the UX Seminar WS17 board.

needs a mockup

Feb 7 2019, 11:29 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender assigned T4692: annoying auto-scroll to machniak.
Feb 7 2019, 11:29 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender assigned T4770: can't search for events of a category to machniak.
Feb 7 2019, 11:28 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender assigned T4767: No undo button after deleting Calender to machniak.

Sounds like a good idea to me.

Feb 7 2019, 11:28 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender assigned T4929: unclear what to type in under "add participants" to machniak.
Feb 7 2019, 11:26 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender claimed T5055: cursor is still visible, even when overlaid by other UI item.
Feb 7 2019, 11:26 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender assigned T5085: Calender view goes back to default after looking at mails to machniak.
Feb 7 2019, 11:24 AM · UX Seminar WS17
machniak added a comment to T4755: Events gone after searching.

Ah, so by "delete your search" you mean cleanup the input field with keyboard. I get it now. Then this is almost a duplicate of T4872, but I'll not close it to make sure it's taken into account.

Feb 7 2019, 11:02 AM · UX Seminar WS17
A.Spiesberger added a comment to T4857: Changing the month of the little monthly calendar isn't synchronized with bigger display.

Can wee close this then? @isabel.pacheco

Feb 7 2019, 11:02 AM · UX Seminar WS17
A.Spiesberger added a comment to T4896: "Hinzufügen" button for participants confusing.

agree with @ben99

Feb 7 2019, 11:01 AM · UX Seminar WS17
A.Spiesberger added a comment to T4899: Inconsistency when separating e-mails.

It should not appear behind each other, it is just to make it eassier to type it in.

Feb 7 2019, 11:00 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender claimed T4584: Not possible to drag and drop an event on touch screen.
Feb 7 2019, 11:00 AM · Roundcube Kolab Plugins , UX Seminar WS17
A.Spiesberger closed T4932: split "day view" in 2 columns as Invalid.
Feb 7 2019, 10:59 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender added a comment to T4872: having to press 'enter' to actually search.

T4755 is also a result of this issue

Feb 7 2019, 10:58 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender added a comment to T4755: Events gone after searching.

Aside of "applying search w/o need to press Enter" I don't understand the issue.

Feb 7 2019, 10:58 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender assigned T4872: having to press 'enter' to actually search to machniak.
Feb 7 2019, 10:57 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender assigned T5076: Add reminder only greys out number when it does not apply anymore to machniak.

I was able to reproduce this

Feb 7 2019, 10:55 AM · UX Seminar WS17
machniak closed T5118: When adding a new calendar it only shows after a longer period as Wontfix.

This is a bug of KolabNow specifically caused by cyrus murder setup there. I think we have a ticket like this already. I'll close this one as it is really nothing I can do on the webmail side.

Feb 7 2019, 10:53 AM · UX Seminar WS17
machniak closed T5010: Inconsistency when creating a new event clicking on the field for "ganztätig" and for the monthly overview as Resolved.

This is already fixed. As you can see on beta.kolabnow.com/apps right now a single click works everywhere.

Feb 7 2019, 10:45 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender closed T4935: fix "tab bar" should stay in place as Wontfix.
Feb 7 2019, 10:45 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender assigned T5118: When adding a new calendar it only shows after a longer period to machniak.
Feb 7 2019, 10:44 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender moved T4983: When selecting a time you can't see them all from Done to In Progress on the UX Seminar WS17 board.
Feb 7 2019, 10:42 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender added a comment to T4983: When selecting a time you can't see them all.

I can't reproduce this. What browser/OS is this?
I wonder why you don't get any scrollbars.

Feb 7 2019, 10:42 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender assigned T5010: Inconsistency when creating a new event clicking on the field for "ganztätig" and for the monthly overview to machniak.
Feb 7 2019, 10:39 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender moved T4995: Adding an event in the monthly view generates an all-day event from Done to In Progress on the UX Seminar WS17 board.
Feb 7 2019, 10:37 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender added a comment to T4995: Adding an event in the monthly view generates an all-day event.

Why would the default be 10:00 ?

Feb 7 2019, 10:37 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender moved T4947: Changing time in "Verfügbarkeit anzeigen" not possible from Done to 1 on the UX Seminar WS17 board.

I guess the usual way to schedule an event is to think of the required participants first and than find a timeslot that fits them all instead of the other way around.

Feb 7 2019, 10:36 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender moved T5019: After saving an event the notion of "save" didn´t disappear from 1 to In Progress on the UX Seminar WS17 board.
Feb 7 2019, 10:35 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender added a comment to T5019: After saving an event the notion of "save" didn´t disappear.

The dialog should disappear, I expect some javascript error here. Any chance we can see browser error console? Does it happen always or need specific event data?

Feb 7 2019, 10:34 AM · UX Seminar WS17
machniak added a comment to T5019: After saving an event the notion of "save" didn´t disappear.

The dialog should disappear, I expect some javascript error here. Any chance we can see browser error console? Does it happen always or need specific event data?

Feb 7 2019, 10:33 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender moved T4869: Search fields not labelled clearly from Done to In Progress on the UX Seminar WS17 board.
Feb 7 2019, 10:31 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender added a comment to T4869: Search fields not labelled clearly.

@isabel.pacheco So chaning the left seachfield to "find calendars" had little/no effect?
Or was this before the rename change was in?

Feb 7 2019, 10:31 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender assigned T5019: After saving an event the notion of "save" didn´t disappear to machniak.
Feb 7 2019, 10:29 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender moved T4992: Not logical option when adding a reminder from Done to 1 on the UX Seminar WS17 board.

There are usecases for wanting more than one reminder per event.

Feb 7 2019, 10:28 AM · UX Seminar WS17
bohlender moved T5166: Search option in agenda in limited to future 60 days by default from Done to 1 on the UX Seminar WS17 board.

Could we "fake" search all by searching untill we find ~30 results and then search some more when the user request more results?

Feb 7 2019, 10:24 AM · UX Seminar WS17

Feb 6 2019

M.Gruber added a comment to T4962: When trying to hide a calender the button stays black - the same with the "all-day" button.

@A.Spiesberger exactly the same happens to me, but my participants thought this is confusing why it is first black

Feb 6 2019, 6:02 PM · UX Seminar WS17
M.Gruber added a comment to T4971: When clicking on time to create event the default time often is wrong.

I could not reproduce this either

Feb 6 2019, 6:00 PM · UX Seminar WS17
M.Gruber moved T4992: Not logical option when adding a reminder from In Progress to Done on the UX Seminar WS17 board.
Feb 6 2019, 5:57 PM · UX Seminar WS17
M.Gruber added a comment to T4992: Not logical option when adding a reminder .

agree

Feb 6 2019, 5:57 PM · UX Seminar WS17
M.Gruber added a comment to T4674: Navigation with keyboard.

I agree, navigation with the keyboard would be useful

Feb 6 2019, 5:56 PM · UX Seminar WS17
M.Gruber added a comment to T4857: Changing the month of the little monthly calendar isn't synchronized with bigger display.

I agree, it should not change.

Feb 6 2019, 5:55 PM · UX Seminar WS17
M.Gruber added a comment to T4875: Different creation of reminder.

@ben99 I agree. if there are two selection fields (one for the number, the other for the timeinterval, like minutes) WITHOUT the third selection field it is way more intuitive. If "before the event" and the two search fields have desciptions like "1, 2, ..."and "minutes, hours, days, ..." and by clicking on the search field you can choose between those it would be easier to handle.

Feb 6 2019, 5:54 PM · UX Seminar WS17
M.Gruber added a comment to T4893: Adding multiple recipients for an e-mail/particpipants.

I find it more confusing that you can enter multiple participants altogether when adding them to an event (like I also commented in the ticket for this). I would prefer if for both options (entering multiple emails recipients as well as entering multiple event participants) after entering one email and pressing enter, the email is marked as complete, so you can´t write any further). Marking could be for example a box around the email adress.

Feb 6 2019, 5:50 PM · UX Seminar WS17
ben99 added a comment to T4932: split "day view" in 2 columns.

okay, so I think vox populi is pretty clear :) Shall I delete this ticket?

Feb 6 2019, 5:47 PM · UX Seminar WS17
M.Gruber added a comment to T4896: "Hinzufügen" button for participants confusing.

I agree @ben99

Feb 6 2019, 5:43 PM · UX Seminar WS17
M.Gruber added a comment to T4899: Inconsistency when separating e-mails.

No I would not want this. The idea is to see the availability of each participant on his own, so it is useful that the participants are listed one below the other, don´t you think?

Feb 6 2019, 5:42 PM · UX Seminar WS17
M.Gruber added a comment to T4932: split "day view" in 2 columns.

I also would prefer to have just one column, then the day view is consistent with the week and the month view. I also think two columns can be confusing, for example when the event starts before the cut off point of the left column and "ends" in the second column.

Feb 6 2019, 5:38 PM · UX Seminar WS17
M.Gruber added a comment to T4935: fix "tab bar" should stay in place.

I would delete it as well

Feb 6 2019, 5:35 PM · UX Seminar WS17
M.Gruber renamed T4935: fix "tab bar" should stay in place from fix "tab bar" in place to fix "tab bar" should stay in place.
Feb 6 2019, 5:34 PM · UX Seminar WS17